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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jun 9, 2015 7:13:34 GMT -5
Just to confirm, was indeed J401 to J402 that i left out and got no source image. I found this in the service manual. With composite video or RGB analog input ---> component for LIDO/LIMO : Now I wonder how you tell the switcher that there is a line doubler? It is a user input so somewhere in the menu's you have an option? If this option is not selected the video will not go through the J401/J402 path. No, it only activates on a 15.7kHz signal, all signals above 31.4kHz are passed through.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jun 9, 2015 7:17:51 GMT -5
Just to be sure. Do you have this option set off? I do not know if it is possible to set it to on without a line doubler but anyway. Which projector is that for? The 909/CineMAX dont have the option to turn it on or off. If not present, the image processing menu is not there, and if the signal is 31.4kHz or higher it is also not there. first option on these is Multiplier Mode, the on/off setting is not there.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jun 9, 2015 7:25:45 GMT -5
Id be guessing, but id say when using Port 4/5 the 15.7kHz signal enters the LIMO-PRO from J401 on the switcher, where it is then modified in the manner selected in the multiplier menu, then returns to the switcher via J402. In the event of a signal being 31.4kHz or higher, all is the same, but the LIMO-PRO will simply pass it back to the switcher without making any changes. Without the bridge between J401 and J402, the signal stops at the output of J401, and has no ability to return.
If indeed it does work that way, it would explain why he has sync but no video image, as the video image is not being passed from J401 to J402 as it should be.
Port 3 also connects directly to the LIMO-PRO, and then has its own cable from there to the Port 3 input on the switcher.
Your quoted section from the operating manual leads me to believe that is exactly true.
If indeed he had a Port 3 card he could theoretically get an image without the bridge between J401 and J402, as those connections affect only Ports 1/2 and 4/5.
I have a spare Port 3 card here, if you would like to test that theory.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jun 9, 2015 7:45:36 GMT -5
So previously KLO has stated something about Ports 1 and 2 being dissabled, which i dont believe to be entirely correct, they enter the switcher via the main board, and from there they require the LIMO-PRO for the CineMAX to display an image ( a proper one anyway ) as they are only 15.7kHz capable inputs.
Ive never tried them without the LIMO-PRO installed, so i dont know what happens if you try it, my guess is either nothing or a distorted image.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jun 9, 2015 7:47:53 GMT -5
PS, the Port 3 card from your 1209 should be the same, put that in, connect it up, then plug your source into Port 3.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 8:46:51 GMT -5
First thing I would do is buy a Moome hdmi card. You are going to need it anyway and there is a chance that the seller (that I know as a trustworthy man) tested it that way so perhaps it is bypassing the malfunctioning electronics.
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Post by mastertech on Jun 9, 2015 8:59:24 GMT -5
The switcher I use is a mp modified one. It says 909 with a marker. Do you think it is a 808? Yours looks like a 1209 board. Redfox. Just to clarify what you wrote somewhere else, I said your board looks like a 1209 board, not an 808. I had looked at the 808 diagram and the switcher was different then yours'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 9:23:06 GMT -5
Did you also check the 808s documentation? With the 1209s the switcher changed but I think the 808s has the same? I have documentation for the 1208s and that is the same switcher as I use. I also know my switcher was used in a cine 8 because I bought it from fragzero with all kind of cine 8 parts.
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Post by mastertech on Jun 9, 2015 9:33:32 GMT -5
Actually the 808 switcher I looked at was the "R7617481" and was different then yours.
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Post by mastertech on Jun 9, 2015 9:35:01 GMT -5
Oh, and the image I just posted above is for the 1209s. The layout looks just like yours.
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Post by mastertech on Jun 9, 2015 9:55:45 GMT -5
Did you also check the 808s documentation? With the 1209s the switcher changed but I think the 808s has the same? I have documentation for the 1208s and that is the same switcher as I use. I also know my switcher was used in a cine 8 because I bought it from fragzero with all kind of cine 8 parts. There may very well be various models that use the same type switcher as yours but I am not going to go checking every one just to see. MY POINT WAS, I was correcting you on a statement you made somewhere else about what I had said. You statement was: "Someone on another phorum saw that my switcher is probable a 808 and yours are 909". I am correcting you in stating I said it could be from a 1209s. I know you use a translator but I think all numbers translate the same, don't they? hahahaha
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 10:32:59 GMT -5
Ok I corrected the statement but did not think it important as I am pretty sure it is the same on 808s but I should have used the s not to confuse anyone.
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Post by hulio on Jun 9, 2015 11:35:04 GMT -5
I also know my switcher was used in a cine 8 because I bought it from fragzero with all kind of cine 8 parts. True, but the switcher in Cine 8 is not the same as in 808(S) series. It is in fact a specific Cine 9 switcher ( R7627195 ). Along with that, Cine 8 and Cine 9 share the following identical parts ( different than those in 808S ): EHT- 7627165 Splitter - R762718 ( also present in 808S ) PFC sub-board - R7631452S (only Cine 8's equiped with power factor correction) Front input board - R7631295 LimoPro - R763315 Aside, Fragzero got that Cine 8 from me .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 11:55:45 GMT -5
He you are right. I made a picture of the switcher in my 809 (cine 8) and that one has part number R7627195 too. It also has the jumper cable. Are you sure about the PFC? I once asked Curt and he said no.
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Post by hulio on Jun 9, 2015 16:46:52 GMT -5
Tjeerd, i never said PFC board. Just PFC sub-board, the small doughter-board of the PFC.
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