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Post by Casethecorvetteman on May 4, 2015 22:03:47 GMT -5
Hi all, it has been discussed elsewhere, but with limited information flowing forward, for any given reason.
If there are any mods you have done or tested post them up here and discuss!!
The picture noise issue has not yet been addressed as fair as i know.
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Post by mastertech on May 5, 2015 8:42:15 GMT -5
Have we invited most of the 909 users that we know?
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on May 5, 2015 16:04:32 GMT -5
Yeah mate i have, a couple of them are here.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 16:51:56 GMT -5
I changed some hfa1100 with 5166 on the switcher and driver. Also upgraded a transistor. Pretty doable if you have learned to handle smd opamps. I can post some more info in time perhaps add a few coils on the supply lines and or increase capvallues. Think it adds a little sharpness. On the neckboard one can try experimenting with ferite beats on g2 wires and fillament wires. That might lower these Noise lines. Do not know if anyone has experimented with that.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on May 5, 2015 19:46:55 GMT -5
I havent bothered changing anything myself, im reasonably happy with the way mine works, Francisco has been asking about it all again recently though, ive directed him here.
Post some pictures of what you did if you can
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 7:24:30 GMT -5
In my experience the 909 is without the modifications the best projector out there. Only after doing the very best mods the Marquee will show more background detail and resolution. Even modified the Marquee is less sharp in focus and I could not get it to show clear scanlines yet. Now it makes sense that if you can improve somewhat on the video chain in a 909 you will get a much sharper image so it might be worth modding but to be realistic it is not easy to improve there. The biggest problem in modifying the video chain is that you have to buy from guys that are very difficult to deal with so doing it yourself might pay off after all Things we should do is to substitute with better opamps and transistors and on the neckboards it is difficult to find substitutes. Playing with the gain in the stages that requires playing with resistors on the opamps. lowering noise from the supply lines. If oneday someone sends me some info how to do the neckbords I might work on the rest again.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on May 6, 2015 20:27:19 GMT -5
I noticed a lack of a couple features on the 909 software compared to the Cine 9, and after flashing that 909 controller with Cine 9 software it has indeed made for a better machine...
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Post by gjaky on May 7, 2015 16:02:24 GMT -5
The biggest problem in modifying the video chain is that you have to buy from guys that are very difficult to deal with so doing it yourself might pay off after all Things we should do is to substitute with better opamps and transistors and on the neckboards it is difficult to find substitutes. Playing with the gain in the stages that requires playing with resistors on the opamps. lowering noise from the supply lines. If oneday someone sends me some info how to do the neckbords I might work on the rest again. High frequency electronics is a sort of art. Needs full understanding how circuits work, not a cheap hobby. I started to learn about this about two years ago and I would not consider myself as an expert, what is sadder is that under this period I couldn't make any improvement on CRT's bandwidth, not even the least. I only recently reached the level where I am able to measure what is actually happening in the ciruits, note: measure, not tune... You'd need a fast oscilloscope with a bandwidth of at least 300MHz (the more the better), for CRT amplifier measurements active FET probe is crucial (note a FET probe alone can only handle ~1V so you need further divider /10:1, 100:1/ accessories), a good signal generator (a selected VGA card might do it).
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 6:24:30 GMT -5
I have a number of neckboards here and some are high bandwidth right away and some just are not. In my experience it is impossible to modify a low bandwidth board to much higher. Also I am not sure if a high bandwidth board is changed much by modifying as it seems the peaking is made less and the real bandwidth is increased. Net result is that the 1:1 stays about the same.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on May 8, 2015 7:18:34 GMT -5
Are you refering to 909 neckboards? I have noticed a reasonable drop off since swapping my tubes from my 909 into my Cine 9, i took those neckboards from the 909 out and left them with the tubes.
I dont know what is different, i didnt compare them when i swapped them.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 8:59:51 GMT -5
Are you refering to 909 neckboards? I have noticed a reasonable drop off since swapping my tubes from my 909 into my Cine 9, i took those neckboards from the 909 out and left them with the tubes. I dont know what is different, i didnt compare them when i swapped them. Try it and please report. I have limited statistics but comparing Marquee boards with the same parts there is a huge difference in bandwidth.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on May 8, 2015 20:00:59 GMT -5
I havent swapped the new tubes into the housings yet, id be better off trying it then.
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Post by hulio on May 20, 2015 4:52:43 GMT -5
I am in a process of moding the fan circuit on my BR909. The scope is to duplicate the one from Cine 9. I got a hold on those ultra rare speed- regulating boards R763706 and the metal work is in progress ( noise baffles on back-fans and in tubes-compartment. Cine 9 has a soft. limitation of the max. upper frequency, some think in order to be able to run the fans at lower speed, others think it was pure to eliminate some video noise. So not sure if i should flash the controller with Cine 9 V2.21 or let the existing BR909 V3.11. People reported swapping their broken controller on Cine 9/Max with BR909 one, while keeping the same noise level as before. Will take some pics when ready.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on May 20, 2015 6:32:35 GMT -5
My 909 controller originally had v3.12 on it, and the fans certainly were faster and louder.
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