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Post by tschaeikaei on Jan 4, 2017 9:01:02 GMT -5
Hey, happy new 2017.
Well, i know it's easy to do, but since I've got to rule other issues out:
Does anyone have a known working monitor.inf file for a CRT projector, specially talking about a Marquee 9500 Ultra.
I've got mine set up via nvidia custom resolution 1056x800x60, auto-porches at the moment, works good.
But I've got some issues with Mosaic and driver stuff.
Figured out (a side note on a 70 page paper from nvidia) that "monitors without EDID data won't work with Mosaic".
Since the projector is - of course- only connected to RGBH and V, the card simply can't get any EDID data.
Wrote several monitor.inf files, but at some driver + monitor.inf combinations, the machine simply "bluescreened".
Well, forgot to say that I'm running Win7 64bit.
Anyone else working with a Quadro + Mosaic + Immersive Display pro?
Regards, Julian
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Post by gjaky on Jan 4, 2017 14:33:18 GMT -5
I never could make any .inf to make use of it for "monitor simulation", BTW obviously you'd need an .inf for the Sony GDM-FW900 monitor. On the other hand HDMI to VGA converters have their own EDID.
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Post by tschaeikaei on Jan 4, 2017 15:29:19 GMT -5
Hi Gjaky,
I don't have any HDMI cables on this. It is DVI analogue to RGBHV, graphics card directly to the pj.
As far as i understand the topic, Windows remembers a display device being connected via resistance (or current) between the RGBHV and ground lines.
If not, how would anyone be able to connect a CRT to a graphics card?
Such a monitor /projector (without the additional EDID data coming from the pj/mon) is recognized as "default monitor".
That "default monitor" is what Mosaic seems to have a problem with.
I can set a custom resolution (1056x800x60 on both projectors like i have now) and it will accept and display that resolution.
Next step is to activate Mosaic. It will crash on newer driver instantaneously, but works on version 320.xx.
Newer drivers even don't show the Mosaic- Button in the Nvidia control panel.
Maybe it's because my card is a hacked GTX480 or maybe it is because of the default monitor.inf, i don't know.
The 320.xx driver has some other issues. It doesn't keep aspect ratio when setting up the blend. I initially set the resolution to 1056x800,
everything fine at this stage. Then i activate Mosaic and it stretches my picture, not keeping the aspect ratio where it was before.
Regards, Julian
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Post by gjaky on Jan 4, 2017 16:13:51 GMT -5
I also have Win7 64bit. In the device managger I could set my default plug&play monitor to sony fw900, throughmanually upgrade the driver with the built in, not sure if it helps though.
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Post by tschaeikaei on Jan 4, 2017 16:20:04 GMT -5
I found a .inf file for the FW-900 monitor on AVS forum, but i cannot use it. Seems 32 bit only.
Could you send me your inf file, please?
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Post by gjaky on Jan 4, 2017 16:41:17 GMT -5
It is built in the Windows... Go to the Device manager, double click you monitor, go to Drivers tab (the middle tab, sorry I have Hungarian Windows) -> updatee driver -> Find drivers on the computer -> Select driver from list -> uncheck "display only compatible devices" Funny enough in windows 95 this was only 2 steps  |
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Post by tschaeikaei on Jan 4, 2017 17:16:36 GMT -5
Well yes, found that driver in the Windows library. Installed it, but still a lot of problems. I can choose that resolution i want (or any standard resolution in the list) on both projectors, but every time when i enable Mosaic, the picture gets stretched. Strange, but i'm used to graphics drivers that behave strange. Picture is higher than it should be for the screen. That is set via the projectors geometry menu. Yellow sphere. Mosaic enabled:  Mosaic disabled (that's how it should look like) 
To be honest, nothing at all changed with the Sony driver. |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jan 4, 2017 22:07:29 GMT -5
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Post by gjaky on Jan 5, 2017 1:24:27 GMT -5
Julian, have you tried with two LCD monitors yet?
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Post by tschaeikaei on Jan 5, 2017 6:38:43 GMT -5
Hi Case, how do you think this could be ruled out by Immersive Display pro?
I am using IDP, but it requires a working Mosaic setup to work.
No Gabor, i did not try two LCDs, but will. Often, the simplest ideas are the best.
There should be modified nvidia drivers out there, searched for it, could not find any.
Modified in the means of "Mosaic on any Geforce card". Since I'm not sure where my problems come from
and since newer drivers don't enable the Mosaic button in the nv system settings.
Thanks.
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Post by justin on Jan 5, 2017 7:06:22 GMT -5
hello, happy new year. i have recently been looking at nvidia mosaic and came across this pdf. images.nvidia.com/content/quadro/product-literature/user-guides/NVMosaic-UG.pdf < if you scroll to section "System Requirements" and look at table 1.2, theres a column on the right that lists "Mosaic with sync-capability". does your soft modded gtx card actually have this sync feature? on page one of that pdf, i quote "Note: Installations that require Mosaic Technology with multi-projector or stereoscopic 3D functionality must use Mosaic with synccapable GPUs for proper operation." i may be off track here and i only want to help... keen to see this working! |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jan 5, 2017 7:27:23 GMT -5
Hi Case, how do you think this could be ruled out by Immersive Display pro? I am using IDP, but it requires a working Mosaic setup to work. No Gabor, i did not try two LCDs, but will. Often, the simplest ideas are the best. There should be modified nvidia drivers out there, searched for it, could not find any. Modified in the means of "Mosaic on any Geforce card". Since I'm not sure where my problems come from and since newer drivers don't enable the Mosaic button in the nv system settings. Thanks. I dont really know for sure, ive never used it. The fact your video card is not using the correct firmware might possibly be the cause, ive never firmware modded a video card before. |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jan 5, 2017 7:31:07 GMT -5
hello, happy new year. i have recently been looking at nvidia mosaic and came across this pdf. images.nvidia.com/content/quadro/product-literature/user-guides/NVMosaic-UG.pdf < if you scroll to section "System Requirements" and look at table 1.2, theres a column on the right that lists "Mosaic with sync-capability". does your soft modded gtx card actually have this sync feature? on page one of that pdf, i quote "Note: Installations that require Mosaic Technology with multi-projector or stereoscopic 3D functionality must use Mosaic with synccapable GPUs for proper operation." i may be off track here and i only want to help... keen to see this working! This is my thought too, because firmware modding the card cant add physical features that are not present in the actual hardware, and there must be some reason those cards are so bloody expensive! |
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Post by tschaeikaei on Jan 5, 2017 18:39:18 GMT -5
Hi Justin, these PCI/PCIE Sync Cards are as far as i understand required to syncronize multiple Quadro cards in different PCs. So, if you have a room with say 4 PCs, each with 2 Quadros (connected via sli bracket), you'd need such a sync card for every PC, to sync to the other PCs. Insede one PC, the Quadros are synced via the SLI bridge. That's how you connect 16 projectors and blend them seamlessly to one picture. Again: that's how i understand it. But my scenario is rather easy: i have one PC, one dual DVI "Quadro" and two projectors. They should be "synced" (if they need to at all) by the V-sync signal.Syncing is in my opinion only needed for 3D via shutter glasses. Like they say in your quote: "synccapable GPUs" I only have one GPU, what should it sync to? Don't let them confuse you, this whole thing is rather complex and reading all these pdfs (some of them disagreeing with others) costs me lots of nerves, too. The pdf you linked seems to refer to the newer Quadros only. K/M/P series. Mine was before K (Kepler), it's a plain Quadro 6000, not K6000 or later (M/P). Hi Case. My card is using the original GTX480 BIOS (which is what you refer to as firmware), the only thing changed is the hardware ID. Hardware- wise, the Quadro 6000 and the GXT480 are exactly the same card, which makes the HWID- mod possible in the first place. The only difference is that the Quadro usually comes with more RAM (usually 6GB), while the GTX 480 comes with 1.5GB. Oh, and the GTX uses 480 pixel shaders instead of 448 (Q6k). Well, i will not exclude the possibility that it may be my modded card that's causing the trouble. I found a lot of info about modding those Geforce cards, but nothing about a modded card that was reported to successfully run Mosaic. In that case, there is the possibility to install modded drivers, which are reported to run Mosaic on every card (even untouched Geforce cards). But... i cannot find modded drivers to download. |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Jan 6, 2017 5:55:01 GMT -5
You may need to ghost in an EDID somehow, or use HDMI into a MOOME on each.
Because the RGBHV doesnt supply an EDID, thatll pretty much stop you right there.
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