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Post by gempk5 on Mar 31, 2022 15:15:11 GMT -5
I think so you are right I purchased this receiver a month ago, Could be the previous owner Never updated frimwere before and when I Purchased it, it was working fine and then I connected To update frimwere From Wi-Fi for latest one . Updating has been done Individually 2 times with Completed message and it shut down by itself Without getting interrupted until it became Gray Option on menu, so you can't update anymore
or no more Letting me update, That is what happened to me.
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Post by tjmotter on Mar 31, 2022 16:50:59 GMT -5
Can you now scroll through the firmware levels again and share the pictures of what each firmware level is?
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Post by gempk5 on Mar 31, 2022 17:15:45 GMT -5
The comment above it was before the problem And after the problem I Uploaded two video to you and nothing change. Do you ask me to upload new video? I don't mind, I just want to say My comment above that I was talking about its after Updated my receiver the problem is coming. Anyway I will Upload new video to you.
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Post by gempk5 on Mar 31, 2022 18:11:20 GMT -5
Good news after I kept it one day without power I'm coming back to do NET-ALL From select and i pushed the power button twice. It's update To 9% and it gave me the same error message
1 - 83 And I restarted it again and it told me to update. When I click enter, it starts for 5 Seconds and the message Appears completed ,power off power on and The sound came back Hallelujah
Now What do you suggest to do with the receiver. Leave it as is or do you have another Idea..
See M2 .. M3 Frimwere after that theres Following number start with 11, Before that it wasn't there only was number 1
I Really appreciate that you tried to help me. So let me know please. Thanks alot.
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Post by tjmotter on Mar 31, 2022 20:07:26 GMT -5
One last thing I would check:
With the system up and running, press the Setup button and then scroll down to MISC (IIRC). You are looking for the "Firmware Update" option. Once you open that, your TV should show the latest version. It should show: 170-7050-7100-0011. If so, you are done. If not, you should try the "NET->ALL" one more time.
HTH
Todd
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Post by gempk5 on Mar 31, 2022 21:26:49 GMT -5
I have this 2170-7050-7100-0011 its Always there With the problem or without a problem.
By the way I can connect four speakers a 100w 8 ohm to front Right and left channel. Cause I have receiver pioneer VSX-9700S hava A+B Speakers With 4 front channel, Onkyo doesn't have that. I just want to switch my speakers to the my new Onkyo.
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Post by tjmotter on Apr 1, 2022 4:59:37 GMT -5
Just one last note to clarify why your Firmware options are greyed out. An Onkyo receiver will grey these options out when it believes that it has the latest firmware. They will only be enabled when a newer version is detected. As such, it would appear that your receiver is now functioning properly.
I am not sure what you mean with respect to the Onkyo not having 4 front channels. In fact, it can support 6 front speakers. Formats like DTS allow for "FRONT HEIGHT" and "FRONT WIDE" speakers in addition to FRONT speakers. An NR818 for example can have up to 11 speakers and 2 subwoofers connected at the same time. Only the FRONT/SURROUND/CENTER/2xSUBWOOFERs (7 total) are permanently connected with the others being "variable". The variable speakers simply mean that an Onkyo will switch the last set between FRONT HEIGHT, FRONT WIDE and SURROUND BACK depending on the signals it is receiving from the source. Understand that a 7.2 receiver doesn't have enough channels to drive 8 speakers 2 subwoofers and a center speaker simultaneously so Onkyo has a switching mechanism inside the receiver so that it can automatically switch between the variable speakers as requested by the format encoded on the DVD.
HTH
Todd
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Post by gempk5 on Apr 1, 2022 8:18:32 GMT -5
Yes This is what I meant, no enough channels to put 4 Speakers together with right and left front channels ,only i have One right port channel and one left port channel, my Pioneer does have 4 front connection port, 2 front connection right 2 front connection left, its take 4 speakers together. So this I want to practice it on Onkyo.
Firmware options are greyed out Because it's finished updated 2 times To the latest version of Frimwere
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Post by gempk5 on Apr 3, 2022 10:52:40 GMT -5
How can the receiver support 6 front speakers As you Mentioned,while the Receiver only has two front speakers channel two red two black?
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Post by tjmotter on Apr 3, 2022 16:05:26 GMT -5
Dolby formats can use "Front Height" speakers in addition to traditional "Front" speakers. DTS format can use "Front Wide" speakers in addition to traditional "Front" speakers. This means that to fully support both Dolby and DTS, a receiver needs to be able to use either (not both). Thus, you can have 3 sets of Front speakers (6 total) but only 2 sets (4 total) can be used at the same time. Note that the Front Wide and Front Height channels are specific elements of Dolby and DTS encoding so you shouldn't expect them to mirror the Front speaker outputs. They are there specifically to allow the receiver to pump sound out (imagine a helicopter hovering) that the movie would like to present from that direction. Using the helicopter example, pure Front speakers would give you the sound of the helicopter but it would be coming from the floor of your viewing room. Front Height speakers though would present the sound as coming from above the TV.
An Onkyo NR818 (for example) has 11 sets of speaker posts. 2 are for FRONT, 2 are for FRONT WIDE and 2 are for FRONT HIGH. Later models like the RZ820 drop the FRONT WIDE channel in favor of a ZONE2 channel. The important thing though is that these newer models support Dolby Atmos speakers which allow the receiver to project the sound off of the ceiling of your room and use a special sound modeling software called AccuEQ to determine how this sound will travel with your specific setup.
I understand that you would like to have 4 Front speakers but frankly, I don't know why you would want to. I can only speak for myself but I would much prefer an approach like Onkyo that aims to give me a sound tailored to the demands of the movie I am watching
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Post by tibimakai on Apr 4, 2022 10:29:40 GMT -5
The bouncy Atmos feature is crap. I ended up installing ceiling speakers.
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Post by gempk5 on Apr 5, 2022 16:21:38 GMT -5
My Previous old Pioneer receiver have 4 front speaker, Two speaker on the section A and two speaker on section B And it gives me more powerful sound, That's why I want to relocate the Speakers set From the Pioneer to the new Onkyo receiver that have 2 front speaker connected port only.
So in this case can I put this 4 front speakers on onkyo , Every 2 speaker on one front channel,2X2 ?
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Post by tibimakai on Apr 5, 2022 16:25:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't recommend that.
If you need those features, you should find a more advanced receiver. Usually those are high end receivers.
By installing the speakers in series, you will have less power.
If you install them in parallel, you can blow the amp. Ohm divided with 2= 1/2 the Ohm
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Post by gempk5 on Apr 5, 2022 16:43:41 GMT -5
Sounds good So any chance to put This Front speaker to the center And I can give option to use it as front Speaker If this option it's available on my onkyo.
Or Can I use zone 2 While I am in the same room but using zone 2 as it have 2 front Speakers too. So I will getting another 2 front speakers . What do you think?
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Post by tibimakai on Apr 6, 2022 10:02:36 GMT -5
You should download the manual, and there should be all the available options that can be had with that receiver.
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