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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 12:10:23 GMT -5
Yes lets just talk about neckboard fixing here. I will try the new style neckboards soon. I hear some encouraging things but there are problems. Apart from that I might do some modding on my standard boards. The bandwidth allready is excellent but who knows. To be honest I think I have all the picture quality that is atainable with Marquee. From the low gain neckboard experiments I know my moome and vim do almost perfect 1:1. I am sure that neckboards are my only room for improvement.
If I find out some mods that work in my opinion I will gladly share the schematics. Fun for the maintainance thread. I hope everyone will be able to enjoy modified marquess in the future.
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Post by gjaky on Jun 10, 2015 14:27:16 GMT -5
I hope everyone will be able to enjoy modified marquess in the future. Marquee for everyone! (political ad for 2015)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 6:40:06 GMT -5
And what is the time code on the MRF transistors? On my VNBs there are 9627. 9812 and 9813. I must say that it seems one of the neckboards is a very little better than the other two. Does hardly show in the testpicture but man it looks better than ever in real material. I had this bandwidth before with the low gain broken neckboard but repairing the gain made the bandwidth a little worse. It is now obvious that this standard neckboard is as good as the best I had this far. Shows in those star nebula from gravity Just got three more nechboards two with motorolla in the 98** range and one in the 95** range. I remember that my not so good MP boards had motorolla and non motorolla transistors. hope to do some tests soon but doubt if they will be better than what I have now. Just to stop some confusion this is what I have now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 15:18:35 GMT -5
Ok a lot of work on the green neckboard today. The green neckboard was factory and had higher bandwidth than the rest. But somehow after a lot of movies I found I was seeing to much noise. So I transplanted all caps and coils and resistors that should lower the noise on this green neckboard from the MP modified board and I must say it looks better. The high bandwidth brings out every noise there is and it seems these noise mods are indeed an improvement. One shot to try how it looks here. Looks very good in reality.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 3:22:58 GMT -5
Lets ponder a bit further on this neckboard problems. I need some people thinking with me here.
It all started with me receving neckboards from Mike that had low bandwidth. Mike asked me to change a few resistors in the driver area. That did not help. Than he concluded that it was most likely the boards. He said some boards can not be modified into high bandwidth. The strange thing was that he send me those boards so why did he not know that these boards where low bandwidth?
Now I was so bad to do things on my own and I took all modifications to another neckboard. After that I tested and the bandwidth was low still. It was even lower with the modifications than without them!
Now I compared all the modifications with strid his boards and his boards performed high he said. Also thewolfmans board had the same parts only little potting was used there. It trned out that thewolfmans board where also low on bandwidth.
Ok after the unsuccesfull modtransplant I concluded that I must have been unlucky and had tried two neckboards that where low on bandwidth to start with. That hypotheses was tested by buying boards from Curt and from two other sources. So I bought 8 neckboards. I ended up with two very good and one good neckboard. Perhaps one more was good if I remeber well. So lets say 4 out of 9 where good.
Now knowing that some boards do just not perform as Mike says himself why did he send them to me and the wolfman? He must have known that as he tested them.
I compared the opamp with strid and perhaps strid has a different one there but his resistor vallues where the same. Also I could figure out the number of the opamp after using magnifiers and because Mike scratched bad relying on the potting I guess. They where scratched but with the right light I could recognise a few characters and identify them. So why would Mike hide an opamp if it was a bad one? Why would he send me a bad opamp? I can only conclude he send me bad boards knowing that.
Do I miss something here?
Is it possible that Mike is not capable of modifying a lot of neckboards to high bandwidth despite advertising?
Or perhaps a mistake?
Edited some ideas away.
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Post by gjaky on Sept 27, 2015 7:30:51 GMT -5
I'd strongly suggest you to let these things go. Happened what's happened, but you really can't do much about it by now. You just making yourself trouble bringing up these things again and again.
It is quite possible that not all boards can be make real high bandwidth and I also think this also depending on the actual projector chassis as well, especially on the tubes, as there is a manufacturing tolerance for the tubes as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 8:08:19 GMT -5
Yes good point about the tubes and I do not have prove that someone could play those tricks. But it is important information for anyone that buys modifications. We should know that there are things that might not bring out the high bandwidth we hope for.
it is just that I bought a complete set of a 2008 machine from Curt that probable was 2005 and that included 3 new neckboards. I saw nothing special about one of them and when I got them back one was a very old board. But it could have been that I did not notice and that Curt did not notice.
ok I admit it I am wrong. I looked at old pictures again and there is a dot of glue on the board I send him that is exactly the same on the received board. Also other identifications match so I am wrong in this. Pfffffff I am happy I am wrong.
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Post by jbmeyer13 on Sept 28, 2015 9:16:55 GMT -5
I'd strongly suggest you to let these things go. Happened what's happened, but you really can't do much about it by now. You just making yourself trouble bringing up these things again and again. Good advice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 3:28:38 GMT -5
It is just difficult to believe that he could make so much mistakes but it seems to be the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 9:18:37 GMT -5
But this thread is about neckboard repairs. The Mike Parker modified vim 02 with mini board is a complete different story. I compared it with a standard vim and the blacklevel resolution is far better also the colours in dark scenes are much richer I do not know the reason for that probable bandwidth. The vim is realy something different!
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