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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 20:52:38 GMT -5
ZD911 A=165.4, C=165
D924. A=166.3, C=165.9
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Post by mastertech on Mar 15, 2017 21:04:09 GMT -5
Remove all your optocoupler jumps.
Then test DC voltage on ic903, pins 1,2,4. Using hot gnd.
Then also recheck your 5v on CN902 using cold (chassis) gnd..
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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 21:18:18 GMT -5
Remove all your optocoupler jumps. Then test DC voltage on ic903, pins 1,2,4. Using hot gnd. Then also recheck your 5v on CN902 using cold (chassis) gnd.. Ic 903 pin 1 = 1.105 pin 2= 5.85 pin 4 = it flashes between 146,OL an 190 +5v is now 11.2 on D924 the cathode side now has 293 an the cathode side behaves like pin 4
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Post by mastertech on Mar 15, 2017 21:24:32 GMT -5
what is voltage now on R976 with hot gnd?
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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 21:32:56 GMT -5
what is voltage now on R976 with hot gnd? 6.1
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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 21:44:38 GMT -5
In between your responses I found a way to test the optocouplers .
I took a 330 ohm resistor and connected it to pin 1 then connected the positive DC power supply to the end of the 330 ohm, and the neg clip To pin 2 . Then the ohm meter to the collector and emitter of the chip, pins 3 and 4 . Then you increase the voltage and as it increases the ohm's reduce and as you reduce The voltage the ohm's should increase. One behaved nice and smooth. The other two at a certain point went to OL then began to read again.
I need to order those as well.
Nashou
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Post by mastertech on Mar 15, 2017 21:45:05 GMT -5
Good. Now, I want you to test dc voltage on ic902, pin 8. You should have around zero. Then I want you to go to where ic909 (optocoupler) was mounted and jump those pins (3 and 4) again and then see if ic902, pin 8 comes up to 6v. All this is using hot gnd. If it does, then I want you to test the 12v and 24v at CN902 using cold gnd. If something smokes when you jump that optocoupler it was already a problem, not something you did wrong. I will check your results tomorrow.
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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 21:48:23 GMT -5
I had 1 volt, not close enough to 0 is it?
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Post by mastertech on Mar 15, 2017 21:50:30 GMT -5
That is fine.
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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 22:04:10 GMT -5
No Change after the jump of 3-4 ic909. Also lost the voltages on ic903 they went down. The 5.85 volts went down to 3.9 on pin 2 for example.
So something in the ic909 circuit might be causing it?
Athanasios
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Post by mastertech on Mar 15, 2017 22:11:40 GMT -5
I think Q922 is shorted. Do a diode test across its legs and see if any show short. You may have to remove it to test for sure.
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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 22:29:58 GMT -5
I think Q922 is shorted. Do a diode test across its legs and see if any show short. You may have to remove it to test for sure. I was looking at that, there is some yellowing of the PCB on the underside where the pins are soldered. Nashou
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Post by nashou on Mar 15, 2017 22:37:30 GMT -5
Nope, measured fine out in my tester.
Ugh
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Post by mastertech on Mar 16, 2017 9:36:15 GMT -5
Ok, then Q922 is working as it should and when turned on, something past it on that line is shorted and pulling that line down. At least there is not a real lot on that line.
Connected to it is: C959,R987,R930,Q917,ic901,C920,ic902. You have to start removing parts until that line voltage comes back up to normal. Where would you like to start?
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Post by nashou on Mar 16, 2017 13:54:32 GMT -5
Ok, i'll start with C959 I guess. Just noticed in this post repairalmostanything.com/post/9963, i meant ic903 not 902. I replaced ic902 . maybe i should pull ic901 first. or would that affect anything else? still at work for now. Nashou
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