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Post by gjaky on Sept 3, 2015 10:59:14 GMT -5
The Dr HDMI works quite well, but i wouldnt recomend the HDF 4. I will use it as a hdmi in and hdmi out. I will not use the analogue part. It should be able to triple frame rate to 72p. Even for that it isn't working...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 12:28:00 GMT -5
Do you have experience? I just ordered one but can send it back. Francisco said it worked for him.
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Post by gjaky on Sept 3, 2015 12:31:39 GMT -5
Stridsvognen and Marc (noos@xp37+) had one which did not work in this regard.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 12:57:11 GMT -5
Ok I will try and will send the thing back if it does not work.
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Post by stridsvognen on Sept 3, 2015 15:29:43 GMT -5
The Hdfury 4 will work for frame tripling from 24 to 72hz when running HDMI in->out. I was never able to make the scaler GUI work, so i dont have any controle over the porch settings to push out the raster ringing. Hdfury has some of the worse support i have ever experienced, they prommise features and specs they cant hold, i was prommised a special 72hz firmware with the right timings to push out the raster ringing, the promise was made on the Hdfury forum, but as usual they edit and delete the forum so it look good for other buyers who read there. They also claim a 225Mhz analog out bandwidth, it wont do 150Mhz right, and 178Mhz is distorted. It look like they pay for advertising on AVS so it has not been possible to write user feedback over there.
I tested 2 Hdfury4 units with identical results.
Anyway, we are so close to UHD that i bet there wil be a Hdfury5 or something else that will do the bandwidth for both 1080P 72 and 96hz, i expect the new UHD BD to be a 60hz source, so that should remove the need for frame manipulation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 9:27:08 GMT -5
Well I got the hdfury 4 and it works perfect with the Oppo. It triples to 72 Hz.
With the Mac all problems stay the same. It does not accept 24 Hz from the Mac or it does and the Moome does not or the Barco. Pressing the same button that made the Oppo go to 72 Hz with the Mac no luck. They all seem to do automatic stuff en they all freak out in the chaine.
So now I am going to test if it does help with syncing the Marquee. I might keep it for the Oppo anyway.
For the Mac I need a stronger hdmi out signal. There is a powered dvi cable. Perhaps I need that one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 12:07:18 GMT -5
The Marquee worked perfect with the HDFury 4 and the Barco too when I connect the Oppo at let it triple the framerate to 72 Hz. Eventually I could even get 72Hz on the Barco and the Marquee using custom timings with so very small porches that it was not usable. A part of the image was missing. Also the picture was not stable. But it showed that 72Hz looked better in my opinion. I do not think drhdmi is going to fix this as the HDFury is a powered adapter too. Now this seems my last option. A powered displayport to dvi cable. thetechreviewer.com/computer/apple-mini-displayport-to-dual-link-dvi-adapter-review/
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Post by gjaky on Sept 5, 2015 2:50:17 GMT -5
BTW what's behind this mac thing? With a normal PC it would be much-much easier...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 6:07:18 GMT -5
BTW what's behind this mac thing? With a normal PC it would be much-much easier... Yeah but I have to buy a new motherboard and cpu and in the past I could never get the pc to work without judder. I do have a good video card btw. The mac used to be the easy solution. Just use vlc player and watch without judder. It turned out I needed a faster harddrive ssd to get rid of an occasional glitch evry half an houre. but with windows evrything is multitasking and I had to kill all those services etc. Perhaps that is not so anymore? tempting to try one day.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Sept 5, 2015 7:08:41 GMT -5
Im not really refering to the analog out, but i didnt find it at all useful for what you wish to achieve. I think you only get 72Hz out of digital on it when you go 1920x818p, not 1920x1080p.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Sept 5, 2015 7:15:26 GMT -5
The Hdfury 4 will work for frame tripling from 24 to 72hz when running HDMI in->out. I was never able to make the scaler GUI work, so i dont have any controle over the porch settings to push out the raster ringing. Hdfury has some of the worse support i have ever experienced, they prommise features and specs they cant hold, i was prommised a special 72hz firmware with the right timings to push out the raster ringing, the promise was made on the Hdfury forum, but as usual they edit and delete the forum so it look good for other buyers who read there. They also claim a 225Mhz analog out bandwidth, it wont do 150Mhz right, and 178Mhz is distorted. It look like they pay for advertising on AVS so it has not been possible to write user feedback over there. I tested 2 Hdfury4 units with identical results. Anyway, we are so close to UHD that i bet there wil be a Hdfury5 or something else that will do the bandwidth for both 1080P 72 and 96hz, i expect the new UHD BD to be a 60hz source, so that should remove the need for frame manipulation. Absolutely could not agree more on their support ( or obvious lack there of ) and the fact their products fail to meet their claimed specs. This is why im saying buy a product from someone reputable instead of supporting these clowns. Even when i did get the GUI to work i wasnt able to get the unit to run the porch settings i set into it, it just kept the standard timings no matter what i did. There were others that also had this same issue.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Sept 5, 2015 7:22:49 GMT -5
The very minute you post anything negative on their forum they remove it, and if you state something doesnt do what it should do they tell you to read the manual because its all in there.
Then they say they have no way to test what you want to try because none of them actually own one or a CRT projector, which is their way of saying "we dont know what to do, your problem now, figure it out yourself."
The 3D glasses are a perfect example of claimed specs being incorrect. The glasses lack the number of settings they claim them to have, they promised a second version emitter free to all those who purchsed the first one, and then backed out on the deal claiming lack of interest, so basically they cant forfil their promises and probably dont know how to give what theyre claiming in the first place.
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Post by gjaky on Sept 5, 2015 7:48:21 GMT -5
BTW what's behind this mac thing? With a normal PC it would be much-much easier... Yeah but I have to buy a new motherboard and cpu and in the past I could never get the pc to work without judder. I do have a good video card btw. The mac used to be the easy solution. Just use vlc player and watch without judder. It turned out I needed a faster harddrive ssd to get rid of an occasional glitch evry half an houre. but with windows evrything is multitasking and I had to kill all those services etc. Perhaps that is not so anymore? tempting to try one day. I don't know, I am quite happy with the judder of my configuration. That is sure once you set up your HTPC turn off all automatic updates -those are useless for these single purpose computers anyway. My current favorite is AMD's AM1 APUs, you can have an APU+mobo combo for less than $100. For that money you get a quad core CPU, and at least three different monitor connectors on board (VGA, DVI, HDMI) with reasonable VGA power, and all this consumes 25W. Intel also has similar configuration in the person of the J1900 quad core cpu integrated on a moteher board, simlar price similar, computing power, slightly worse integrated VGA, but also consumes less power. Both of those can serve a very efficient HTPC, I went with the AMD because it still can output interlaced resolutions while intel can't, but I think that won't be a problem for you, both accept custom display timings, etc. With PC you can have much better players than VLC, like MPC-HC and MadVR codecs...
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Sept 6, 2015 0:47:17 GMT -5
I dont have any judder at all, but this could be due to my ststem's rediculous amount of power, 32gigs of DDR3, X79 chipset, powerful CPU, 4 gig 760GTX video and RAID0 SSDs.
Its probably more related to settings rather than raw power.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 12:14:14 GMT -5
Yes 72 Hz works on the Barco with the new cable.
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