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Post by mastertech on Nov 20, 2015 12:21:27 GMT -5
Maybe we need a chart of all the various firmware's and any known differences. Is there any such manufacturer chart?
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Post by hulio on Nov 20, 2015 12:32:35 GMT -5
Dummyload, is this of any help ? On pages 7-12 some info regarding how the controller works. BR909 Training_02.pdf (568.22 KB)
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Post by hulio on Nov 20, 2015 12:41:44 GMT -5
Maybe we need a chart of all the various firmware's and any known differences. Is there any such manufacturer chart? I'm affraid only Barco have that info. All i have is the improvement on Cine 9 from V2.13 to V2.21. I quote from Barco : "Modification are done to the startup procedure to keep the projector responding after power switching and to insure the running of the runtimer."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 12:45:11 GMT -5
Hulio just said the opposite so this is something we have to look into. It seems to explain some things.
I never said that Fox. I even said that there are specific Cine 9 soft. versions. When i mensioned " the newer the better " i was reffering to the PCB revision.
Ok but what is specific to those versions? They all have the Temperature item I found out. Do not know about the rest. It seems like you wrote that untill v2.21 it was cine 9 and after it was seos but my 2.20 is seos. I think the point is that we wonder if there is a v2.20 cine 9 and another v2.20 seos? |
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Post by hulio on Nov 20, 2015 14:40:12 GMT -5
I don't know about Cinemax but Cine 9 had two soft. versions only ( 2.13 and 2.21 ).
Higher than that, it was a further development specific for BR909/SEOS919. A lot of improvements are not visible for the end user, i guess. You'll have to compare the bin. files and even you find a difference, you'll never know what's the improvement.
Unlike other brands, Barco make all kind of oddbals with their projectors. They mod the hardware and software for each specific application.
I tend to believe that if we use the CineMax/Cine 9/BR909/SEOS919 as a stand-alone projector, for HT purpose only, V2.21 is the way to go. In your case Fox, if you go the blend way, maybe V3.12 for both projectors is beter.
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Post by dummyload on Nov 20, 2015 17:27:46 GMT -5
To make it more confusing When i flashed my board with 2.13 file it showes barco cinemax in the menu. When i flash with 2.21 file it showes barco cine 9 in the menu. These are the two files that came from the barco website ,so i thought that 2.13 was the latest file for the cinemax and 2.21 latest for the cine 9 . Makes no sens because they are the same projector , but maybe it's for the customers having the same name in the menu as on the projector . That's the only thing i can think of. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 18:35:03 GMT -5
Ok last question. What does EKU 2.22 mean. It is a firmware in the service manual section on this board. Perhaps it means 'be the frist to try this'?  |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Nov 20, 2015 19:21:53 GMT -5
Was this indicated somewhere before? Did I miss it? Hulio just said the opposite so this is something we have to look into. It seems to explain some things. There is also one more thing I have to mention. Curt sya in a number of thread that he and Eisemann had bad experience flashing controllers where the process would halfway stop. Also some people in this thread have dead controllers they must have died some way. Curt did not want to update software at all when I spoke to him. What do you think. With the EEPROM programmer we might have a failsave. No, Curt said he had failures, but Curt says a lot of things. That is not what Greg told me at all, and i followed his advice. And even if it does stop half way you just start it again with a jumper in place. Curt may not want to do it, but he's not the be all and end all of the Barco 909/Cine 9 either. |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Nov 20, 2015 19:25:04 GMT -5
Ok last question. What does EKU 2.22 mean. It is a firmware in the service manual section on this board. Perhaps it means 'be the frist to try this'? Its v2.22 for Cine 9 as far as i know. |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Nov 20, 2015 19:29:02 GMT -5
Oh by the way I heared the same noise with v2.13 and v3.12. Perhaps 3.12 is a bit lower in noise seems to spin a little slower. With the fancontroll board Temperature diagnostics appears in the menu on 3.12 too. Ok now the sensor works again. At startup there is not much difference in noise. Youre stating all the obvious arent you... Its all been said before in the other thread months ago.. |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Nov 20, 2015 19:34:39 GMT -5
Let me sumarise my little tests. V2.13 Cinemax -temperature option appears with fanboard -at startup not much difference in noise with or without fanboard V3.12 Seos -temperature option appears with fanboard -at startup not much difference in noise with or without fanboard V3.12 seems less noisy than V2.13 with and without the fanboard. But V3.12 focusboard does not have the jumper to switch between 12V and Fan. Setting the jumper on 12V with V2.13 makes it much more noisy. I remember that after more time and or higher resolutions the fanboard would make a difference. One other observation. The Cinemax has both fans spin in oposite directions in the tray but also has a metal peace on the focusboard that the seos does not have. They all should have the cover over the focus board. What is this v3.12 focus board you speak of? If you want the okder focus board with the jumper, swap the focus board. |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Nov 20, 2015 19:37:40 GMT -5
Was this indicated somewhere before? Did I miss it? Hulio just said the opposite so this is something we have to look into. It seems to explain some things. There is also one more thing I have to mention. Curt sya in a number of thread that he and Eisemann had bad experience flashing controllers where the process would halfway stop. Also some people in this thread have dead controllers they must have died some way. Curt did not want to update software at all when I spoke to him. What do you think. With the EEPROM programmer we might have a failsave. Tell me where Hulio said the opposite? |
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Post by hulio on Nov 21, 2015 2:56:13 GMT -5
Ok last question. What does EKU 2.22 mean. It is a firmware in the service manual section on this board. Perhaps it means 'be the frist to try this'? That' the one we need. Developed for beer drinkers  No idea what it stand for but i think i saw it somewhere and it says BR909 in the ID screen. Maybe a beta version from jailbreakers  |
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Nov 21, 2015 5:12:20 GMT -5
Was it 909 or Cine 9 software though? Easy to tell because the Cine 9 features will all be there if it is.
My controller still IDs as a BR909 regardless of software.
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Post by hulio on Nov 21, 2015 7:37:41 GMT -5
In the technical documentation of Cine 9, V2.21 is the latest version. EKU 2.22 was found in the BR909 download section.
The difference, i wouldn't know...
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