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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 9:16:26 GMT -5
Hulio did you make the fancontroll board?
No, i'm not that skilled when it comes to electronics. I just duplicate the cooling circuit of CineMax/Cine 9 with two original R763706 boards and the metal baffles. It is called in fact "laminaire airflow". Same cooling but with less air-turbulence. A lot of noise is not created by the spinning fans but the air passing the back-grille with high speed. If someone need the drawings of the metal work, let me know and i'll post them here.
Ok that is very interesting. I have serious plans to duplicate the fanboards. I think I will make like 20 or so and than see. Perhaps Gjaky will help with the print layout files but he is busy. I have to dive into that printboard design software again so if I have to do it it will take somewhat longer. But I worked with it before hope some memory is left.
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Post by mastertech on Nov 21, 2015 10:42:34 GMT -5
It could be "Enhanced Key Usage" ? Has anyone tried it to see what features it may have?
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Post by hulio on Nov 21, 2015 11:16:50 GMT -5
Does not ring a bell to me. Never heard about the term. What "key usage" stands for ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 11:21:08 GMT -5
Makes sense there are those F1 F2 etc shortcuts on the remote.
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Post by mastertech on Nov 21, 2015 11:25:40 GMT -5
Does not ring a bell to me. Never heard about the term. What "key usage" stands for ? Well this is all assumption but in this instance it could mean that the menu has advanced item selections or more range of adjustment or particular adjustments. Possibly for a special projector installation where more control or manipulation is required. The EKU must stand for something, however, is it in English or some other language? I don't know.
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Post by hulio on Nov 21, 2015 17:44:18 GMT -5
Makes sense there are those F1 F2 etc shortcuts on the remote. Those F functions are in Cine 9 V2.21 too.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Nov 21, 2015 19:58:35 GMT -5
Makes sense there are those F1 F2 etc shortcuts on the remote. Those F functions are in Cine 9 V2.21 too. You can change them to suit yourself for what you want there, but only on Cine 9 software. Its very convenient to have.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 10:45:23 GMT -5
He just for fun I made a video recording the V3.20 tray in the 919 and the complete Cinemax tray with V2.13 and the fanboard in the 919. The resolution is 1080p@60 for both.
I think the first video sound a little lower in speed so the V3.20 is the quietest in my opinion.
One thing there is also a different focusboard in both trays. The Cinemax has the focusboard with the fan/12v jumper.
V3.20
V2.13
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Post by hulio on Nov 22, 2015 12:11:03 GMT -5
I carefully listened with the headphones at both videos and indeed it sounds like in the first clip, the sound is a bit lower. However, for best comparition, you should swap the controller only. Else, other things can influence the noise (e.g. another front fans, another aluminium tray with his own vibrations and if i remember correctly, the aluminium air-deflection cone infront of the focus board was missing in one 919 tray ). Then you can go with what ever soft. version is the most silent. Also, don't forget that making those metal upgrades will reduce the noise further.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 13:26:23 GMT -5
Yes true. Especially the focus board difference might be the reason. Also the Cinemax tray has the two fans in reverse direction.
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Post by dummyload on Aug 8, 2016 7:09:31 GMT -5
Update.
First reason I made this programplug adapter was so I could go back to previous file if an update is not as expected and this works well. Second reason gain knowledge for repair ,I have one controller board that works through rs232 (remote control prog) but not with internal or external remote and I could not find any hardware malfunction except from the reset chip that did not generated resets anymore.From this I suspected software corruption ,I replaced reset chip and made a copy of main program I6 and I7 from other working controlboard out of my cinemax and programmed it in the defective board but still no remote control.
The memory off the control board consists of four memory chips (I6 I7 I8 I9),I never considered I8 and I9 important because I thought they only hold mainly data for the settings and they are not accessible throug the programplug alone , the chip enable line for both chips are still missing.
But recently I went for it , made an extra adapter for I8 and I9 . The chip enable lines are available at chip I4 (isplsi2032-80) So I used an plcc socket 44pin cut out the back plastic and now you can put it upside down on I4 making good contact so no need to solder the extra wires.
The defective controllerboard has seos prodas on it and flashed to v2.21 (before I had this progger so v3.12 was lost) To test first I made a copy of the I8 and I9 chips from the working cinemax controllerboard with v2.21 (cine9) on it. I first replaced I9 ,and bingo the remote works again (and everything else as far if I could see) so there is data related to the remote in I9, also the seos prodas in the menu is gone and is now cine9 , so menu id is also in I9.
Now I replaced I8 and the hour counters and serial number are now the same as on the cinemax controller ,so hour counters and serial number is in I8. So replacing all four memory chips from one board to another you can clone a board this works with my boards backwards and forwards. But doing the same with the boards of Hulio the hour counter values where a little bit of reason not known yet. There is still alot that needs to be checked though. And the boards I use are different revisions. Looking at the data file from the chip I8 I can not find any hexnumbers that are the same as the hour counters or serial number to chance them in the file. So controllerboard finely totally working again and with the gained knowledge the work was more then worthed.
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Post by Casethecorvetteman on Aug 8, 2016 7:37:21 GMT -5
Sounds good mate, great work!
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Post by dummyload on Dec 13, 2016 15:07:25 GMT -5
Some new findings. The core databus is 16bits ,I8 and I9 are 8bits memory,so barco used two 8bits chips instead of a 16bit one.I had there relationship a bit ignored because the hardware of the board makes it possible to read and write them separately and there is no reason for that if they act as one chip.Looking at there content ,they contain several banks with data with empty banks inbetween the bank addresses from I8 and I9 match each other perfectly.There is however a difference in the addresses used depending what firmware is used , so there is a difference when cine9 firmware is used or the br909 v3.12 firmware. that explains why the hour counters where not zero with the boards from Hulio we had swap files for I8 and I9 so we made some FRANKEN data. Reparing the board that failed from Hulio (replaced I9 chip) I left it blank (total content FF) to see what happens . Seems the program does check the content of the data memory and a blank memory makes the program to totally rewritte I8 and I9 resulting in a clean start up ,hour counters zero ,serial number _ _ _ _ (same as a replacement board I learnt from Hulio) and all settings mid point.(this also removes seos and brings it back to Barco when cine221 is used).So erasing I9 is a way to bring the board back to virgin state (software ways).
I also found the two 16bit words that represent the serial number I'am now able to change this number without affecting anything else not important but fun to do.
With the help from Hulio who let me extract (programplug) the br909 v3.12 firmware from one of his boards and Justin who wrote a byte swap program I managed to convert the file back in to a flash file ,and it seems to work fine ,I just flashed (rs232) my board back to a br909 v3.12.
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Post by justin on Dec 13, 2016 18:34:34 GMT -5
excellent work here dummyload... it really is. well done and thank you for sharing your findings.
its possibly the beginning of many new things for these sets.
I look forward to learning more.
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Post by justin on Dec 13, 2016 20:31:27 GMT -5
I havent mentioned this before but when i was editing and looking through the cine221.bin file i noticed there was mention of "CINE_8", "SEOS PRODAS" amongst other interesting things a single line of code above "CINE_9" and "BR_909"...
your findings of the different addresses sounds right because my assumption of how the board would fetch and display this data is a matter of changing these addresses where the text is stored in the file.
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